On this edition of StudioTulsa, we're discussing court fees, court fines, collection costs, and other court-related expenses, which, all told, make up somewhere between 80 and 90 percent of the budget for the State of Oklahoma's court system. Therefore, and quite regrettably, our state's jails are by now brimming with people whose only "crime" is being unable to pay such costs. Our guests are both members of an informal working group here in Tulsa that is calling for dramatic reform of how the state's court system gets funded: James Hinds is a Tulsa-based lawyer and William Kellough is a former Tulsa County district judge.